Category Archives: Particular Redemption

“Extent”

John Owen (1616-1683), thanks to ReformationArt.com

Time for our first break from Brown’s Self-Interpreting Bible. How about if we dabble in the doctrine of particular redemption?

I ran across, once again, the famous quote by Puritan theologian par excellence, John Owen (1616-1683), from his book,  The Death of Death in the Death of Christ. Among statements in defense of the Reformed doctrine of particular redemption, this one is literally viral in the Reformed blogosphere. This quote is Owen’s logical critique of general redemption, and is worth thinking through and searching the Scriptures about if you’ve never taken the time.

 Anyway, here’s a breakdown of his complex argument from Reformed.org:

 The Father imposed His wrath due unto, and the Son underwent punishment for, either:

  1. All the sins of all men.
  2. All the sins of some men, or
  3. Some of the sins of all men.

In which case it may be said:

  1. That if the last be true, all men have some sins to answer for, and so, none are saved.
  2. That if the second be true, then Christ, in their stead suffered for all the sins of all the elect in the whole world, and this is the truth.
  3. But if the first be the case, why are not all men free from the punishment due unto their sins?

You answer, “Because of unbelief.”

 I ask, Is this unbelief a sin, or is it not? If it be, then Christ suffered the punishment due unto it, or He did not. If He did, why must that hinder them more than their other sins for which He died? If He did not, He did not die for all their sins!”

 I’ve looked at this many times and have until now always had trouble keeping the whole train of thought on the rails in my head, if you know what I mean. Finally, the other day, I decided I’m going to have to do with this what I do with Scripture verses and catechism questions that I want to memorize–put it to music!

 The following is the result. It’s roughly based on the tune to the children’s song “I’m in the Lord’s Army,” although there are some divergences. Do what you will with it. So, without further ado, I give you . . .

Extent

by John D. Chitty

 Did Christ die for
all sins of all men
or all sins of some men
or some sins of all men?

If Christ died for
some sins of all men,
then all die
for those he did not.

But if Christ died for
all sins of some men,
that’s what we believe,
all th’elect of all the nations!

But if Christ died for
all sins of all men,
why are not
all men saved?

You will answer
“Because of unbelief”–
Is unbelief a sin or not?

If not, why then,
for it give account?
Either for it
Christ was punished, or not!

If he was, then,
why does unbelief
prevent salvation
more than other sins he died for?

But if he did not
die for unbelief,
then for all sins of all men
Christ did not die!

So Christ died for
all sins of some men,
those the Father
gave to His Son!

I’m from Geneva, and I’m here to help!

Does Lack of Perseverance Imply Limited Atonement?

21 And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, 22 he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation [1] under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister. (Colossians 1:21-23)

This passage clearly implies the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints, or as I renamed it, Persevering Grace for the Saints. It basically says that Jesus actually reconciled a professing believer if he continues, or perseveres, in the faith. Simple enough, those who persevere are the ones who were truly reconciled to the Father in Christ’s death on the cross.

But look what happens when you read its opposite:

if you shift from the hope of the gospel that you heard, are unstable, waver and do not continue in the faith, then Christ has not reconciled you in his body of flesh by his death in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him.

Do you read what I read? When I think of it in this way, my logic tells me that lack of perseverance may be evidence for limited atonement. In other words, if you don’t persevere in the faith, then Jesus didn’t die for you.

What say you? Am I reading limited atonement into this passage, or am I properly drawing limited atonement out of the text? Eisegesis or exegesis? You be the judge (That means post your opinion!).

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